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Ole C

Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 110 Location: Norway
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| Joe, why not 0° anti squat if the track is bumpy? |
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JoeCathey
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 28
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Well, I felt the car was just fine through the bumps, so I didn't even think it needed to be changed.  |
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JoeCathey
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JoeCathey
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:39 am Post subject: |
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| My home track posted above. |
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Chris71
Joined: 24 Jul 2010 Posts: 9 Location: Wolfenbüttel/ Germany
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:21 am Post subject: Setup Probs |
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Hi!
I`m a new user, my Name is Chris. I drive for GM Racing Team in Germany since 5 Weeks and i have a little Problem with my new Car. We have a bumpy, slippery track with a lot off u low speed corners.No hy speed corners.
http://www.msc-polizei-bs.de/abteilungen/rccoffroad/dierennstrecke/index.php
5 weeks ago i drive a reckward mugen mbx 6 and i have no problems with the curbs, but now my car is a wild horse! When i hit the curb my car flip over always! Too much grip at the front and at the rear end tracktion rolling and then in milliseconds no grip (i have shortend the rear upper arm and it was a little bit better.
My Setup
Hyper 9 GL with Front Spyder, middle and rear normal diffs. (7000, 7000,5000)
B Type rear lower arms and shocktower and A type front
front shocks big bore 20mm, 3x1.5,3x1.6, 35WT Losi oil, white (grey) spring, lenght 122
rear shocks, big bore 20mm 3x1.5,3x1.6, 30WT losi oil, blue (white) spring, lenght 106
front end:
front upper arms, inner 2, outer 1
front upper shock 3,
short ackermann bar
camber -2
caster 20 standard
Front Sway Bar 2.2
Front Toe 1 degree toe out
ride high 25mm
preload 4mm
bump steer standard what`s the differens, when i flip it?
rear end:
short wheelbase
rear upper arms , inner1, outer 3
rear upper shock 2, rear lower shock 2
camber -2
toe in 3.5
antisquat 2
rear sway bar 2.4
ride high 28mm
preload 6mm
Engine mount 20°
Wing Kyosho,whing mount hole3 max downforce (what`s the differens to the option wing from hobao?)
Engine OS Speed
Clutch 14T, Alu with 1.1 springs
Tires AKA cityblock medium
I use the nitrohouse guide! :-)
Many thanks for infos!
Chris |
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easyryder
Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 159 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| I say tires and shock oil seems too light for my tastes, I like 50 wt losi oil 8 hole shock pistons, all white spings. |
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Chris71
Joined: 24 Jul 2010 Posts: 9 Location: Wolfenbüttel/ Germany
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:16 am Post subject: |
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OK, 8 Hole x 1,45mm?
I think, when the track is bumby, the oil must be thinner?! Or is this a mistake when i drive a hyper? :-)
Chris |
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rkhess
Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 66
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:47 am Post subject: |
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i have the same problem sometimes with proline calibers ....i would try a smaller pin tire grid irons or a more forward bite tire like I beams soft
I also like whites or xray gray-blues ...
your track looks pretty flat besides that jump in the middle a little lower ride hieght goes a long way on the hyper9 |
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Chris71
Joined: 24 Jul 2010 Posts: 9 Location: Wolfenbüttel/ Germany
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| The track is only flat when the track is new. At the moment the track is extrem bumpy and slippery, an i tested Tourex, SP and AKA Tyres. It`s always the same problem. When i lower the ride high the car is bumb on the track and jump with the rear suspension. I will test thinner oil around the car?! like Losi 30/25 with the white/ blue springs. Have every one tested the rear standard brace vs. the new GL alu brace? Is the standard brace the better at bumby tracks? |
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easyryder
Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 159 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| 8x1.45 correct front and rear for pistons, I had the GL and prefer the 2.0 with standard diffs and plastic rear brace, A type rear, thats just me, loose rough stuff, try 4-4-2 diff fluids, but remember tires are 90% of a good set-up. |
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Chris71
Joined: 24 Jul 2010 Posts: 9 Location: Wolfenbüttel/ Germany
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:00 am Post subject: |
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:-)
I drive the B type rear and the A type front, because the B type front has extrem understeer. 8 hole 1.45 is hard to buy in germany, the pistons come with 6x1.5. :-( Front and rear!!!
at the moment i "dremel" the steering servo position, because i will drive it like JK. |
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Felipe
Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 470 Location: Winter Haven FL
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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| use 1 .9 spring and 2 1.0 in your clutch is working good for me. |
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easyryder
Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 159 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Chris71 wrote: |
:-)
I drive the B type rear and the A type front, because the B type front has extrem understeer. 8 hole 1.45 is hard to buy in germany, the pistons come with 6x1.5. :-( Front and rear!!!
at the moment i "dremel" the steering servo position, because i will drive it like JK. |
We drill them ourselves here, no big deal, its in the nitrohouse set-up tips, get the right tires and follow the tips, and have fun, #1 |
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Chris71
Joined: 24 Jul 2010 Posts: 9 Location: Wolfenbüttel/ Germany
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:31 am Post subject: |
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I drill it, but i can`t drill it from 1.5 to 1.45! :-) And smaller one not sold in germany.
One Question, what`s the differenz between bump steer standard an flip the bump steer ball?
Chris |
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easyryder
Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 159 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Dont worry about it too much, add 5 wt extra for larger holes. Flipping the ball doesnt change much, just drive that buggy Go get some wins I have learned over the years, strong buggy with right tires and good driver = good results regardless off a few mm here or few mm there, Have Fun is the best victory  |
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