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Ole C



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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe, why not 0° anti squat if the track is bumpy?
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JoeCathey



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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I felt the car was just fine through the bumps, so I didn't even think it needed to be changed.
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JoeCathey



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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.tricitiesrc.com/php/media/nct09stand.jpg
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JoeCathey



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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My home track posted above.
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Chris71



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Location: Wolfenbüttel/ Germany

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:21 am    Post subject: Setup Probs Reply with quote

Hi!
I`m a new user, my Name is Chris. I drive for GM Racing Team in Germany since 5 Weeks and i have a little Problem with my new Car. We have a bumpy, slippery track with a lot off u low speed corners.No hy speed corners.

http://www.msc-polizei-bs.de/abteilungen/rccoffroad/dierennstrecke/index.php

5 weeks ago i drive a reckward mugen mbx 6 and i have no problems with the curbs, but now my car is a wild horse! When i hit the curb my car flip over always! Too much grip at the front and at the rear end tracktion rolling and then in milliseconds no grip (i have shortend the rear upper arm and it was a little bit better.

My Setup

Hyper 9 GL with Front Spyder, middle and rear normal diffs. (7000, 7000,5000)
B Type rear lower arms and shocktower and A type front
front shocks big bore 20mm, 3x1.5,3x1.6, 35WT Losi oil, white (grey) spring, lenght 122
rear shocks, big bore 20mm 3x1.5,3x1.6, 30WT losi oil, blue (white) spring, lenght 106
front end:
front upper arms, inner 2, outer 1
front upper shock 3,
short ackermann bar
camber -2
caster 20 standard
Front Sway Bar 2.2
Front Toe 1 degree toe out
ride high 25mm
preload 4mm
bump steer standard what`s the differens, when i flip it?

rear end:
short wheelbase
rear upper arms , inner1, outer 3
rear upper shock 2, rear lower shock 2
camber -2
toe in 3.5
antisquat 2
rear sway bar 2.4
ride high 28mm
preload 6mm

Engine mount 20°
Wing Kyosho,whing mount hole3 max downforce (what`s the differens to the option wing from hobao?)
Engine OS Speed
Clutch 14T, Alu with 1.1 springs
Tires AKA cityblock medium

I use the nitrohouse guide! :-)

Many thanks for infos!

Chris
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easyryder



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Location: Tucson, AZ

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say tires and shock oil seems too light for my tastes, I like 50 wt losi oil 8 hole shock pistons, all white spings.
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Chris71



Joined: 24 Jul 2010
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Location: Wolfenbüttel/ Germany

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, 8 Hole x 1,45mm?
I think, when the track is bumby, the oil must be thinner?! Or is this a mistake when i drive a hyper? :-)

Chris
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rkhess



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have the same problem sometimes with proline calibers ....i would try a smaller pin tire grid irons or a more forward bite tire like I beams soft

I also like whites or xray gray-blues ...

your track looks pretty flat besides that jump in the middle a little lower ride hieght goes a long way on the hyper9
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Chris71



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The track is only flat when the track is new. At the moment the track is extrem bumpy and slippery, an i tested Tourex, SP and AKA Tyres. It`s always the same problem. When i lower the ride high the car is bumb on the track and jump with the rear suspension. I will test thinner oil around the car?! like Losi 30/25 with the white/ blue springs. Have every one tested the rear standard brace vs. the new GL alu brace? Is the standard brace the better at bumby tracks?
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easyryder



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Location: Tucson, AZ

PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

8x1.45 correct front and rear for pistons, I had the GL and prefer the 2.0 with standard diffs and plastic rear brace, A type rear, thats just me, loose rough stuff, try 4-4-2 diff fluids, but remember tires are 90% of a good set-up.
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Chris71



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

:-)
I drive the B type rear and the A type front, because the B type front has extrem understeer. 8 hole 1.45 is hard to buy in germany, the pistons come with 6x1.5. :-( Front and rear!!!
at the moment i "dremel" the steering servo position, because i will drive it like JK.
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Felipe



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Location: Winter Haven FL

PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

use 1 .9 spring and 2 1.0 in your clutch is working good for me.
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easyryder



Joined: 15 Oct 2007
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Location: Tucson, AZ

PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris71 wrote:
:-)
I drive the B type rear and the A type front, because the B type front has extrem understeer. 8 hole 1.45 is hard to buy in germany, the pistons come with 6x1.5. :-( Front and rear!!!
at the moment i "dremel" the steering servo position, because i will drive it like JK.


We drill them ourselves here, no big deal, its in the nitrohouse set-up tips, get the right tires and follow the tips, and have fun, #1
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Chris71



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I drill it, but i can`t drill it from 1.5 to 1.45! :-) And smaller one not sold in germany.

One Question, what`s the differenz between bump steer standard an flip the bump steer ball?

Chris
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easyryder



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Location: Tucson, AZ

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont worry about it too much, add 5 wt extra for larger holes. Flipping the ball doesnt change much, just drive that buggy Go get some wins I have learned over the years, strong buggy with right tires and good driver = good results regardless off a few mm here or few mm there, Have Fun is the best victory
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